tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post114296445461095595..comments2023-06-24T11:57:48.459-04:00Comments on larrylivermore.com: Oaktown Body CountLarry Livermorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11948659387575597910noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1143322689744052422006-03-25T16:38:00.000-05:002006-03-25T16:38:00.000-05:00The Oakland city council is made up mainstream dem...The Oakland city council is made up mainstream democrats not leftists. Nadel is probably the only true leftist (and maybe Jean Quan) who is on the council. So if you want to blame Oakland political leadership blame the ones who are running things. As for her racail pandering can you give an example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1143277302103866292006-03-25T04:01:00.000-05:002006-03-25T04:01:00.000-05:00It's obvious that you love your town, and that's b...It's obvious that you love your town, and that's both admirable and a hopeful sign, provided of course that there are many other Oaklanders who feel the same way.<BR/><BR/>But the argument that crime is falling because the number of crimes reported is falling sounds suspect to me; here in Britain the government is constantly making that same case and yet the general consensus is that street crime has never been worse, at least not in modern history. While the police here don't actively discourage you from reporting crimes, there is a well-founded belief that little will be done about any but the most serious crimes, so people simply don't bother. I would imagine the same to be true in Oakland; of the many Oaklanders I've known who've been violently attacked and robbed (I dislike the term "mugged" because it sounds a little too playful, and trivialises what is typically a terrifying and awful experience), only a handful have actually reported it. I ask why and they mostly shrug and say something to the effect of, "That's just the way Oakland is."<BR/><BR/>As for the property-value argument, the reason Oaklanders don't "vote with their feet" is that even at $500k-plus, average home prices are cheaper in Oakland than almost anywhere else in the inner Bay Area. That and its proximity to UC Berkeley will also explain the presence of so many college grads like, for example, Dr Frank, who wishes he "could afford to move away."<BR/><BR/>P.S. I don't hate Oakland, and devoutly hope it could one day become the relatively tranquil, reasonably priced town it was when I first lived there in 1968. But it has been beset with mediocre, corrupt and times outright terrible government for many years; its current problems, while more obvious, have been developing for decades. I agree with you about Nancy Nadel; she's an excellent illustration of one pernicious Oakland tendency that combines doctrinaire leftism with racial pandering. And as usual, the races being pandered to end up being hurt the most.Larry Livermorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11948659387575597910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1143267817915533802006-03-25T01:23:00.000-05:002006-03-25T01:23:00.000-05:00Decklin,I'm not from the Bay Area and haven't even...Decklin,<BR/><BR/>I'm not from the Bay Area and haven't even been alive forty years, but if (as Dr. Frank has said) the police are encouraging victims to not file police reports, wouldn't that account for last year's public record having "one of the lowest overal number of crimes in recorded history" ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1143256499465424682006-03-24T22:14:00.000-05:002006-03-24T22:14:00.000-05:00Deckin, if you really live in Oakland, you're high...Deckin, if you really live in Oakland, you're high. Crime in Oakland is rampant, and laws against assault, theft and vandalism are rarely enforced. Larry's right: Oakland has given up. It is *way* more dangerous to walk around here than it was two years ago, and I don't see much evidence that that trend will change direction. It's getting worse. I haven't seen a cop in my neighborhood in six months.<BR/><BR/>Try calling the Oakland police the next time you're mugged. Last week a gang of kids smashed fifty car windows on Telegraph on a single night. You call the cops, they tell you not to file a report. (You can, as Larry says, file it on-line: that makes you feel great, but it doesn't stop the muggings.) It is a "kinder, gentler" Detroit. They publicize the murders but they can't prevent them. I wish I could afford to move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1143169112150724232006-03-23T21:58:00.000-05:002006-03-23T21:58:00.000-05:00Hey Larry-- I linked your article with Stop de La ...Hey Larry-- I linked your article with Stop de La fuente blog and also it got censored over at http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/03/1809600.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1142983803237867402006-03-21T18:30:00.000-05:002006-03-21T18:30:00.000-05:00By "let's pretend land," do you mean the Bay Area?...By "let's pretend land," do you mean the Bay Area? Because, man, Larry, everyone knows that's where Oakland is. Duh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8774131.post-1142979969824252022006-03-21T17:26:00.000-05:002006-03-21T17:26:00.000-05:00Years ago,the police grabbed me at a beach in Vanc...Years ago,the police grabbed me at a beach in Vancouver (BC). Big fire, underaged people etc.etc. I was one of the oldest (21) they grabbed, so they wanted to charge me with Arson ( we burned a "no fires on beach" sign), destruction of Government property, contributing to the delinquency of minors, blah,blah,blah.<BR/>Spoke found himself in the wagon going downtown. After 45 minuets, I had a thought. Since "downtown" was 7 minuets away and we were still driving 45 later, I realized i was going to get my ass kicked old school style. We stopped and when they opened the doors, I refused to get out. One cop stepped in and dragged me out...I braced myself. NOTHING.<BR/>They had me at the Municipal line so to speak, and told me to get my ass back to North Vancouver where I was from. I walked away.(8 miles to home)<BR/>Heres my thought...IF they did a good old fashioned shit-kicking, I bet I would have trod softly while in Vancouver in the future. I think THAT is what's missing. Gentle arrests, bastard lawyers and a Justice system that "Upholds the Law" but fails serving Justice.<BR/>Guys sell dope to kids, who die, and exploit women, who wish they'd die and they sonter through revolving door systems. I don't know the answer. Jails are full...and don't work!<BR/>We live on a broken fallen planet...part of the reason I'm diggin' Jesus. He gives me hope when I want to slay everyone I can see.Spokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06417910816242867147noreply@blogger.com